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47967. Paul Crellin              Re: freebies
47968. Paolo Rinaldi             Re: The EMC opinion
47969. Will                      Re: Am I missing the point ?
47970. Chris Green               Re: IMPORTANT: Read me
47971. Will                      Re: Will we get the G4s?
47972. Eric Oddy                 Re: freebies
47973. Bert Volders              Re: VGA monitor
47974. Sean FT                   Re: VGA monitor
47975. Gerald Mellor             Re: SRTICQ prob
47976. Gerald Mellor             Re: Will we get the G4s?
47977. Gerald Mellor             OS3.5 help
47978. Gerald Mellor             MCP
47979. Bert Volders              Re: OS3.5 help
47980. Oliver Roberts            Re: IMPORTANT: Read me
47981. Oliver Esberger           Help! I've shot my IDE HD!
47982. Paul Cundle               Re: freebies
47983. Gerald Mellor             Re: Am I missing the point ?
47984. Bert Volders              Re: which one is the best?
47985. David Porter              Re: Amiga & Realaudio
47986. Gerald Mellor             Re: OS3.5 help
47987. darren glenn              YAM
47988. Jani =??Q?M=E4kitalo?=    HTML question
47989. Andrew Crowe              Re: ADF Games
47990. Andrew Crowe              Re: broken pcmcia and 1d4 motherboard fix.
47991. Andrew Crowe              Re: fusion and shapeshifter
47992. Andrew Crowe              Re: Pirated OS3.5
47993. Sean FT                   Re: OS3.5 help
47994. Gareth Knight             Re: java 'n' hex
47995. Gareth Knight             Re: POLL: What do you think about the A600?
47996. Gareth Knight             Re: A crappy announcement to have to make
47997. Gareth Knight             Re: New ish
47998. Steven Holmes             Thanks for CDRW help
47999. Steven Holmes             MakeCD help!
48000. Gerald Mellor             Re: OS3.5 help
48001. graeme meek               AWEB SE OS3.5
48002. Sean FT                   Re: The bigger the stick,the bbigger the bump.
48003. Eric Oddy                 Re: ADF Games
48004. Eric Oddy                 P.Cs threat on my life
48005. Andy Mills                Re: HTML question
48006. Gerald Mellor             Re: P.Cs threat on my life
48007. Alex Paton                Re: AWEB SE OS3.5
48008. Sean FT                   Re: OS3.5 help
48009. Eric Oddy                 Re: P.Cs threat on my life
48010. Andy Mills                Re: fusion and shapeshifter
48011. Stephen Webber            Re: OS3.5 help
48012. Sean FT                   ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ..........
48013. Tudor Davies              Re: Where's Tudor (broken leg) was  Sorry for bei
48014. Jani =??Q?M=E4kitalo?=    Re: OS3.5 help
48015. Jani =??Q?M=E4kitalo?=    Re: SRTICQ prob
48016. Jani =??Q?M=E4kitalo?=    Re: HTML question
48017. Dauber                    DOpus AppIcons
48018. Gerald Mellor             Re: OS3.5 help
48019. Gerald Mellor             Re: OS3.5 help
48020. Gerald Mellor             Re: OS3.5 help
48021. Richard Lane              Re: DOpus AppIcons
48022. Pekka Sippola             Re: fusion and shapeshifter
48023. Jon Barker                Re: SRTICQ prob
48024. Ian Henderson             Re: Help!!
48025. Jon Barker                Re: YAM
48026. Simon Hitchen             Re: OS3.5 help
48027. Tudor Davies              Zorro III Memory
48028. David Plunkett            Re: fusion and shapeshifter
48029. Will                      Re: Am I missing the point ?
48030. Alex Furmanski            Re: HTML question
48031. Peter Hutchison           Re: Uninitialized Partition
48032. Peter Hutchison           Re: Amiga & Realaudio
48033. Peter Hutchison           Re: Installing linuxPPC 1999 - xwindows problem
48034. Peter Hutchison           Re: VistaPro + PPC
48035. Peter Hutchison           Re: jammed e-mail
48036. Peter Hutchison           Re: UK Aminet
48037. Andrew Crowe              Re: Will we get the G4s?
48038. Ken Walsh                 Re: Another free-calls Internet service
48039. Ken Walsh                 error
48040. Ken Walsh                 Re: A1200 Qs
48041. Sean FT                   Re: Uninitialized Partition
48042. Sean FT                   Re: error
48043. George Davis              Ancient Sony Monitor
48044. Matthew O'Neill           Re: Pink Panther stole my jewel
48045. Matthew O'Neill           Re: Cd videos
48046. Matthew O'Neill           Re: Help!!
48047. Matthew O'Neill           Re: More A1200 Qs
48048. Matthew O'Neill           Re: More A1200 Qs
48049. Matthew O'Neill           Re: YAM
48050. Oliver Roberts            Re: DOpus AppIcons
48051. James Potter              Re: Am I missing the point ?
48052. Matthew O'Neill           ami yellow pages
48053. Alan L.M. Buxey           Re: Sound cards
48054. Alan L.M. Buxey           Re: New ABC
48055. Alan L.M. Buxey           Re: Yamaha 8424S (internal) Questions
48056. Alan L.M. Buxey           Re: V
48057. Alan L.M. Buxey           Re: CD writer problems
48058. Alan L.M. Buxey           Re: Guess what's on AF135?
48059. Alan L.M. Buxey           Re: Keyboards again
48060. Alan L.M. Buxey           Re: VistaPro + PPC
48061. Alan L.M. Buxey           Re: More silly ideas from a newbie
48062. Matthew O'Neill           Re: bt go home
48063. Daniel Thornton           Re: V
48064. Alex Furmanski            Re: More A1200 Qs
48065. Sean FT                   Re: New ABC or XYZ %-)
48066. Oliver Esberger           Re: Zorro III Memory
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From: Paul Crellin <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 20:41:29 +0000
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Subject: [afb] Re: freebies
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Hello All,

Well I've downloaded a couple of the games and they show up as .adf
files with no icon.
Now then , what do I do to get them onto my hard drive as playable
games?

All help welcome.

See You,    P.C.



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From: "Paolo Rinaldi" <[e-mail]>
Date: 19 Feb 2000 21:16:20 +0100
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Once upon a time, there was someone, Matthew O'Neill, who enlightened
the world about [afb] Re: The EMC opinion
> > I have been lurking on the afb since it's inception and one thing
> > that has surprised me is the amount of whinging; the price of "X"
> > software,
>
> ??? N one has complained about the price of anything. Could you
> please quote 1 mail where someone says that a piece of software costs too much?
> If you show me 1, I'll show you 10 where people say they're willing to pay
> more.

Not that I want to start a flame war, but here's a mail sent to this
list some time ago:

>>> A mixture of 2.95 and the demo of V to test my JS

>> How can you be?!"?!?!?! You think MUI's rubbish so you must have
>> deleted it from your hard drive!?!?!?!?!

> Its not rubbish, its just not worth 20 for it, even with the extra
> options you get. Now sod off!, as I said I~ll wait and see what 4.0
> offers!

Regards,
Paolo

... Newsflash! Explosion at M$ beta testsite - Infinite number of monkeys killed.

--
Amiga 1200  040 + 603e 200 MHz, 24 Mb Fast, HD 13 GB, CD 24x, OS 3.5
Paolo Rinaldi                  [e-mail]
                               [e-mail]


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Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 12:58:32 -0800
From: "Will" <[e-mail]>
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gerald mellor <[e-mail]> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=47958
> On 19-Feb-00, Will wrote:

> > I have just set up an A500 with to do video titling - should I throw
> > it away?
>
> No, that's great that you have a use for it, but you shouldn't expect
> the rest of us to be held back because software developers feel the
> need to support the lowest common denominator. Which they did, for a
> long time. I don't have anything against A500s, I just don't see the
> need for a modern Amiga magazine to cover them.

I own several 500s as well as several 1200s. I intend to continue to
use all of them, if AF do not want my money fine. There are many
millions of people who still own perfectly good A500s but never use
them. There is money to be made in this area. Take a look at the type
of programmes that sell on pcs, loads of emulators to run old arcade
games which are as popular today as ever. However it is pointless
expecting to sell anything in high numbers through AF or AA, however
www.Download.com could reach a worldwide market.

> > Yes I read that, evidently the reason that Amiga failed was due to
> > people not upgrading their systems.
>
> That's probably true, or maybe it was because people upgraded their
> systems and then stole software to run on them.

It`s neither of those reasons.

> > It was that statement which told me all I needed to know about Amiga
> > journalism.
>
> It was probably something they'd been wanting to say for years, but
> couldn't due to fear of losing sales.

If the 500 was so obsolete why were they afraid of losing sales?

> If your computer system does what you want it to, then like I said,
> that's great :) But you don't see PC magazines supporting 15 year old
> machines, it's not surprising that Amiga magazines don't have any
> A500 coverage these days.

That`s actually not true I have seen Windows 3.1, Locoscript and PL/2
advised upon. To succeed in marketing you need to give customers what
they want not try to tell them what they want and sneer at requests.

>If we don't buy Amiga magazines
> (among other things) sales will dwindle until practically every
> company has left our platform.

They already have, sales are so low that it is not worth developing
anything worthwhile anymore.

> > There is a great list on onelist called Amiga Hacks,
<snip>
> Wow, it's full of people who don't care about the future.. sounds
> great.
>
Actually no, it is full of people who are technically well-informed
about every type of Amiga under the sun and who are prepared to give
genuine practical assistance. Same as that excellent organisation;
Amiga.soc who are not judgemental and give open handed support.

Will



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From: "Chris Green" <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 21:35:55 -0000
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> USA LAW : Guilty till proven innocent

I agree - string him up :)

Chris Green
Technical Editor - Computing
VNU Business Publications, 32-34 Broadwick Street, London, W1A 2HG
..................................................................
Fax: [phone]      Email: [e-mail]
ICQ: 10921400                 URL:   http://computing.vnunet.com
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Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 13:58:20 -0800
From: "Will" <[e-mail]>
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I seem to recall an American internet site advertising G4 for A500s


Cheers

Will.



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Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 14:00:47 -0800
From: "Eric Oddy" <[e-mail]>
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<html>paul crellin <[e-mail]> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=47967
> Hello All,
>
> Well I've downloaded a couple of the games and they show up as .adf
> files with no icon.
> Now then , what do I do to get them onto my hard drive as playable
> games?
>
> All help welcome.
>
> See You,    P.C.
>

Hi P.C,

I think you'll find that adf refers to amiga disk file and probably
need putting on floppies. Boot from DF0: perhaps. I never tried the
sites, I only passed on the info from the magazine article. Anyway,
most of the fun in having a computer is getting the thing to do what
you want. One way or another;)
If that dopesn't work let me know and I'll download a couple and try
them myself.


                           CIAO  Eric</html>



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From: Bert Volders <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 23:05:12 +0100
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Subject: [afb] Re: VGA monitor
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Hey Simon

On 19-feb-00, you wrote:

 What I want to
> know from you guys and gals out there is will this be better than my M1=
438S
> or should it go in the skip with the the 386 desktop?

Depends on the hardware you're connecting it and the size of the screen. =
I'm using a VGA monitor hooked on the PICASSO IV and it is one of the bes=
t things I bought  for the Amiga. So I would say that if the VGA has a bi=
gger screen and smaller dot-size AND your setup is capable of delivering =
an VGA compatible signal then use it. If not keep it as a spare in case t=
he M1438S gets sick.

> =

> Cheers,
>  Simon
> =

> =

> -----------------------------------------------------------------------=
-
> AFB: All polls MUST have dates, and if you have something to
> sell use AmiBench! http://www.amibench.org/
> =

> -----------------------------------------------------------------------=
-
> -- Easily schedule meetings and events using the group calendar!
> -- http://www.egroups.com/cal?listname=3Dafb&m=3D1
> =

> =

Regards
-- =

Bert Volders

[e-mail]
<sb>
Tag of the day:
I like work ... I can sit and watch it for hours.




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From: [e-mail] (Sean FT)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 23:15:45 +0200
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Hello Simon

On 20-Feb-00,Bert wrote:

> Depends on the hardware you're connecting it and the size of the screen.
> I'm using a VGA monitor hooked on the PICASSO IV and it is one of the best
> things I bought for the Amiga. So I would say that if the VGA has a bigger
> screen and smaller dot-size AND your setup is capable of delivering an VGA
> compatible signal then use it. If not keep it as a spare in case the
> M1438S gets sick.

I agree with Bert since i bought my VGA monitor and graphic card 4 years ago
i have never looked back.I have always used the 15/16 bit modes never
needed the pal ones, CybergraphX converts it when i need to use the bootup
screen so theres no problem.
If it fits use it,thats what i say?
                                  Cheers,
                                        Sean


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From: Gerald Mellor <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 21:48:03 +0100
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Hi Jani,

>>  Use version 0.1578 of STRICQ from
>>
>>   http://www-stu.cai.cam.ac.uk/~mnw21/stricq/beta/

> Whoa, it appears I am using an old version (0.13XX IIRC)! Thanks!

Well 0.1578 isn't the latest version either. I'm using 0.1726 here,
which, as of the time of writing, *is* the latest version :)

Bauglir



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From: Gerald Mellor <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 21:57:36 +0100
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
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Hi Gerrit-kjeld,

> You seem to forget that we don't have a native PPC-OS. I hear a lot
> of talk how fast the 68xxx emu. is on the PPC, but people seem to
> forget that the PPC has more things to do then just that in real
> life.

I haven't *forgotten*, but the PPC software we have at the moment
will still run a lot faster on a G3 than on current 603/604 based
cards, even with the 68k emulator slowing things down.

> Say you wanna run a PPC-program, because we don't have a native
> PPC-OS, the emu. must be running also for the OS side. Do you really
> think that it will be that fast then?

Yes. :) Seriously, I don't really know, but it had better be, no one's
going to buy the new cards if running software on them is slower than
what's currently available..

Bauglir



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From: Gerald Mellor <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 22:21:30 +0100
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Subject: [afb] OS3.5 help
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Hi, can someone help me out here. I'm trying to install OS3.5, but the
Installer script is throwing an error at me before it has even
started:

Interpreter: Executing non-function in line 3.

What's up and how do I fix it? :)

Cheers,
Bauglir




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From: Gerald Mellor <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 22:26:56 +0100
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Subject: [afb] MCP
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Can any MCP gurus out there give me a hand? Since installing OS3.1
ready for installation of 3.5, it's popping up with a requestor
telling me:

!!Vector changed!!
INT_OpenScreenTagslist
Can't remove patch!

Does anyone know which function of MCP is giving me this error, so
that I can turn it off :)

Bauglir



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From: Bert Volders <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 23:29:55 +0100
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
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Hey Gerald

On 19-feb-00, you wrote:

> =

> Interpreter: Executing non-function in line 3.
> =

> What's up and how do I fix it? :)
> =

You did the pre-install first? If so and the problem remains you could al=
ways use DirectoryOpus(5.x) and install it by hand. ;-)

Also, try using SnoopDOS and find the call that causes the error.

Regards
-- =

Bert Volders

[e-mail]
<sb>
Tag of the day:
Out of tag lines. Not enough phantasy. =

-- Bert Volders




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Date: 19 Feb 2000 21:54:57 +0000
From:  "Oliver Roberts" <[e-mail]>
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On 19-Feb-00 19:25:35 GMT, adam james wrote:

> On 19-Feb-00, you wrote

>>> So to all those people who sent me offensive email"s get your facts
>>> right Before sending those sort of email's
>>
>> Well, to be fair, how was anyone supposed to know that those email's
>> weren't from you? Come to think of it, we're still only taking your
>> word for it that you *didn't* send them.
>>

> Yep i agree , that was a very good point you made
>
> People don't have to believe me but at least i can defend myself on here

<moderator hat on>

I declare this thread a dead one.  *No more follow-ups here please!*

</moderator hat on>

This issue should never have been brought up here in the first place
(my fault, sorry).  It's a private matter between me and Adam.  As far
as I'm concerned, Adam is welcome here, as long as he obeys the rules
that Ben has set out in the Welcome FAQ.

If people here are sending abusive e-mails to Adam, please stop it -
it's not a nice thing to do.  Please let this be the end of the matter,
and stop wasting bandwidth on off-topic postings.  End of story.

--
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From: Oliver Esberger <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 23:24:42 +0100
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Subject: [afb] Help! I've shot my IDE HD!
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Hello all!

I think I've broke my IDE HD! I am using an A4000T with a SCSI HD and an
IDE HD. Today I've installed the DirectSCSI version of PFS2 to the RDBs,
I have been using the normal version of PFS2 before, but I was told the
DirectSCSI version is ever so slightly faster. It all went very well,
and all my SCSI partitions are now working just like before, so I went
on installing the thing onto the IDE HD (the PFS2 manual says the
DirectSCSI version works with A4000 IDE as well)

After I've added the filesystem to the RDB, I rebooted, but now my Amiga
seems to be trapped in a loop: it recognizes the IDE HD and crashes,
recognizes the IDE HD andcrashes... etc.

It seems it does not like something about the RDB, since this is the
only thing that has changed... unfortunately I have no idea what has
gone wrong, maybe I've installed the same FS twice, but surely HDToolbox
would not let me do that?

So my problem now is, that I'm only left with the SCSI drive. It is not
too bad, as I have made an update of my Internet partition (pure luck!),
so I've only lost my Games partition (games can be reinstalled) and my
Mac partition ..NO backup :(

Does anyone here know how I can repair my drive? I know that since I've
very likely destroyed the RDB I will have to reformat the drive, but
currently not even this is possible because my Amiga won't start as long
as the drive is connected... Disabling all partitions in the early
startup menu does not help, the RDB seems to be read nevertheless...

Another weird problem is that since I removed the IDE HD, every access
to hypercom30z.library crashes my system. I had this problem before, but
a ramlib stack patch resolved it. Now it won't work under any
circumstance (NO patches (apart from P96), ramlib stack at 16 kB). This
is extremely odd because I can't see any link between a Harddrive and a
Serial board...

Thanks for any help!

Regards,
--
Oliver Esberger - mailto:[e-mail]



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From: "Paul Cundle" <[e-mail]>
Date: 19 Feb 2000 22:39:51 +0000
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MSGTO: Eric Oddy
SUBJECT: [afb] Re: freebies

> > Well I've downloaded a couple of the games and they show up as .adf
> > files with no icon.
> > Now then , what do I do to get them onto my hard drive as playable
> > games?

Same here.

> I think you'll find that adf refers to amiga disk file and probably
> need putting on floppies. Boot from DF0: perhaps.

On the latest AFCD (50) in -serious-/misc there's a proggy called
UnADF. Unfortunately, the one I tried it on says something about an
incorrect bootblock. Reading the docs suggests this occurs on a lot of
games :(  Try it.

>                            CIAO  Eric</html>

BTW, Eric, could you change to sending mails as text not HTML please
or you'll get attacked from a great height with something very heavy.
Possibly.

Paul C, where there is no atmosphere
--


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From: Gerald Mellor <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 22:39:48 +0100
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On 19-Feb-00, Will wrote:

> I own several 500s as well as several 1200s. I intend to continue to
> use all of them, if AF do not want my money fine.

I'm sure AF *do* want your money, but it seems like you're not willing
to give it to them. If there's something you want to see covered in
AF, this is the place to mention it.

> There are many millions of people who still own perfectly good A500s
> but never use them. There is money to be made in this area. Take a
> look at the type of programmes that sell on pcs, loads of emulators
> to run old arcade games which are as popular today as ever.

Thos programs don't "sell" on the PC, they're programs that people
download for free from the Internet. I don't see how anyone's making
money through MAME or UAE or through all the ROM and disk images on
the net.

>>> Yes I read that, evidently the reason that Amiga failed was due
>>> to people not upgrading their systems.
>>
>> That's probably true, or maybe it was because people upgraded their
>> systems and then stole software to run on them.
>
> It`s neither of those reasons.

So what do you suggest *is* the reason? I'm fairly certain both those
things had a major part to play in it.

>> It was probably something they'd been wanting to say for years, but
>> couldn't due to fear of losing sales.
>
> If the 500 was so obsolete why were they afraid of losing sales?

I didn't say it was obsolete back them, but if games companies had
taken a risk and released software that required faster machines, more
people would have upgraded. Instead, for years we got shit games
without the features of their PC counterparts because in their opinion
the Amiga wasn't capable of it. Take a look at Championship Manager 2
for an example.

> That`s actually not true I have seen Windows 3.1, Locoscript and
> PL/2 advised upon. To succeed in marketing you need to give
> customers what they want not try to tell them what they want and
> sneer at requests.

But, like I said originally, I don't think AF *do* sneer at A500
users.

> They already have, sales are so low that it is not worth developing
> anything worthwhile anymore.

So you're saying it's not worth buying anything for your Amiga
anymore? It's not worth supporting the developers who are still with
us? Not *all* the developers have left, you know. Or perhaps you don't
know, since you don't read Amiga mags anymore...

Bauglir



------------------------------ message 47984 ------------------------------
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From: Bert Volders <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 23:42:28 +0100
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: which one is the best?
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Hey Erol

On 17-feb-00, you wrote:

You wondered if =A3800 was a lot for an A3000? Well it is, as I said. Now=
 I just found a nice A4000 on Amibench, complete with PPC/060 and loads o=
f cool bits for =A3600 That sounds like a better thing to do to me.

Regards
-- =

Bert Volders

[e-mail]
*** End of forwarded message ***

That's it, that's that.
-- =

Bert Volders

[e-mail]
<sb>
Tag of the day:
Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to complain.
-- Lily Tomlin




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From: "David Porter" <[e-mail]>
Date: 19 Feb 2000 22:52:18 -0500
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: Amiga & Realaudio
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> Czoem * <[e-mail]>*!
> Dnia 14-Lut-00 napisae fantastyczn notk na temat:"*[afb] Amiga & Realaudio*"
> > Is it possible to listen to radio stations (or anything else) that
> > broadcast using the format audio/x-pn-realaudio? I'm using V3 at the
> > moment (warts n'all)
>
> Try unrealaudio - Aminet.
>
>
Cheers for that.

PS Welcome to AFB
Dave


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From: Gerald Mellor <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 22:54:11 +0100
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
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Subject: [afb] Re: OS3.5 help
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On 19-Feb-00, Bert Volders wrote:

>> Interpreter: Executing non-function in line 3.
>>
>> What's up and how do I fix it? :)
>
> You did the pre-install first? If so and the problem remains you
> could always use DirectoryOpus(5.x) and install it by hand. ;-)
>
> Also, try using SnoopDOS and find the call that causes the error.

Yes, I did the pre-install of WB3.1 first, SnoopDOS doesn't really
tell me anything helpful, and I'd have to buy DOpus before I could use
it :) Any other suggestions?

If it helps, the line in installer fails on is:
(effect "lower_right" "radial" $FFFF00 $FF0000)

Bauglir



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Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 15:16:06 -0800
From: "darren glenn" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: [afb] YAM
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I cannot send e-mails at all through yam or any other e-mail program
this is really annoying me now
My config is fine and it works on my brothers. Ive tryed everything,
tryed using several accounts, reinstalled yam, genisis, workbench
partion
and still it doesnt work why? can anyone help please im desperate.
email me on [e-mail]
Daz




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From: Jani =??Q?M=E4kitalo?= <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 00:30:40 +0300
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] HTML question
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Hello,

How do I stirp away the blank spaces between FRAMEs of a FRAMESET?
Disabling frameborders and setting the margins to zero brings the
frames almost together, but a small whitespace remains (except on
IBrowse, which I guess goes against conventions here). HTML has no
command for this, but perhaps the effect could be achieved through CSS
or JavaScript?

- Jani
--
"The capacity of technology to modify the definition of humanity"



------------------------------ message 47989 ------------------------------
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From: Andrew Crowe <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 15:45:17 +0000
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: ADF Games
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Everybody,

> ADFs themselves aren't illegal, anymore than mp3s are illegal. It's =

> the things people do with them that's illegal. I think it's technically=
 =

> still illegal to download commercial games, even ones that were first =

> released over 10 years ago, as i doubt the copyright on them has =

> expired. *But*, for games that old, I don't think many people would =

> mind, it's hard to see what market you could be damaging, although =

> you are supporting the Evil pirates in doing so. Or an Amiga =

> company could buy the rights to those games and then distribute =

> them on a CD, so by downloading them you could be harming sales =

> of that...

   Actually, pirate games on any system are potentially harming sales of =
amiga games: Why buy commercial games for one system when you alreay have=
 a load of free ones? I mean, who needs Wipeout2097 when I can get Wip3ou=
t for a fiver? (not that I /could/ run Wipeout2097 on my amiga, even if I=
 wanted to ;)

See ya :)
-- =

       Manta Soft  -  Amiga programing & web page designing
          http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/       ICQ: 21829166
          Homepage updated 22/1/00 - Large hompage update       =

  - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- -
Child actress Drew Barrymore hosted SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE on
November 20th, 1982 when she was seven years old.
--The Miscellanea Digest



------------------------------ message 47990 ------------------------------
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From: Andrew Crowe <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 15:40:49 +0000
In-Reply-To: <88jhtk$[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: broken pcmcia and 1d4 motherboard fix.
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Hi Everybody,

> My pcmcia port on my a1200 has a bent pin and a broken port guide. Is
> there anyway i can fix this without paying for an expensive repair.

   This happened to my pcmcia port, if you have a very small flathead scr=
ewdriver and a steady hand, you can push the pins back into place. As for=
 the broken guide, it's no big deal, I'd ignore it if I were you.

See ya :)
-- =

       Manta Soft  -  Amiga programing & web page designing
          http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/       ICQ: 21829166
          Homepage updated 22/1/00 - Large hompage update       =

  - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- -
Just what do you think you are doing Dave? Put down that Windows
disk Dave. DAVE!



------------------------------ message 47991 ------------------------------
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From: Andrew Crowe <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 15:35:24 +0000
In-Reply-To: <88kiql$[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: fusion and shapeshifter
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Hi Everybody,

> i have been using shapeshifter for ages and have a dedicated partition
> for it but since buytioing the latest af and afcd i would like to try
> out fucion to see if it is as good as shapeshifter is, but... the
> problem is that whilst shapeshifter can recoqnise a partition that is
> not automatically mounted by dos fusion can not and i hate havig an
> ugly dh2:$|&%^ icon on my workbench can any of you increadibly helpfull=

> and intelligbent people help me to hide this amigados invalide disk but=

> still have the ability to use fusion.

   You could set the partition as non-automount, and run fusion from a sc=
ript that mounts the partition then runs fusion. I'm afraid /I'm/ not sur=
e how to do all that though :/

See ya :)
-- =

       Manta Soft  -  Amiga programing & web page designing
          http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/       ICQ: 21829166
          Homepage updated 22/1/00 - Large hompage update       =

  - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- -
It's a cruel, cruel summer, leaving me here on my own,
-- Ace of Base



------------------------------ message 47992 ------------------------------
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From: Andrew Crowe <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 15:42:57 +0000
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: Pirated OS3.5
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
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Hi Everybody,

> Don't you think it was a bit stupid posting that URL to a public
> mailing list with nearly a thousand people subscribed?

   Nope, I reckon everyone that /wants/ OS3.5 has already got it, and eve=
ryone else who don't want it probably wouldn't even go through the hastle=
 of downloading it.

See ya :)
-- =

       Manta Soft  -  Amiga programing & web page designing
          http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/       ICQ: 21829166
          Homepage updated 22/1/00 - Large hompage update       =

  - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- -
It's a cruel, cruel summer, leaving me here on my own,
-- Ace of Base



------------------------------ message 47993 ------------------------------
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From: [e-mail] (Sean FT)
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 00:50:39 +0200
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: OS3.5 help
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Hello Gerald

On 19-Feb-00, you wrote:


> Yes, I did the pre-install of WB3.1 first, SnoopDOS doesn't really
> tell me anything helpful, and I'd have to buy DOpus before I could use
> it :) Any other suggestions?
>
> If it helps, the line in installer fails on is:
> (effect "lower_right" "radial" $FFFF00 $FF0000)



What are you using for a cd rom driver?


                             POWERED BY:

A4000(T) 040 25+PPC233 144Mb CVPPC PreludeZII+Rombler* IOBlixZII
UltraPlex32X RicohMP6200SCDRW Nomai750.c Mustek1200SP Tiptel506 ISDN Modem
EpsonSC500 OS3.5 etc

*=Still looking for a sound daughter board DB50XG from Yamaha to fit onto
it! (Any offers!)




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------------------------------ message 47994 ------------------------------
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From: "Gareth Knight" <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 20:02:43 -0000
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: java 'n' hex
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Richard Drummond had thirty seconds on the clock:
> (197 = 12 x 16 + 5)
Ever thought about going on Countdown Rich?
--
Gareth Knight
Amiga Interactive Guide http://aig.amiga.tm
Mystery of Life? I found it on Aminet!



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From: "Gareth Knight" <[e-mail]>
References: <40B60C694F60D311ABB50090279411ABE9663B@THE_EXCHANGE>
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 20:16:09 -0000
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: POLL: What do you think about the A600?
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Robert Johnston
> Talking of Freaky ports, anyone remember the Acorn A3000's ones? They were
> in a recess, underneath the keyboard!!!

Same as the Atari ST?
--
Gareth Knight
Amiga Interactive Guide http://aig.amiga.tm
Mystery of Life? I found it on Aminet!



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From: "Gareth Knight" <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 20:46:24 -0000
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: A crappy announcement to have to make
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Ben Vost muttered:
> Well excuse me for writing in several styles. Perhaps I should have a
> <sarcasm> tag for those who are hard of thinking?
But AWeb doesn't support it!!!!
--
Gareth Knight
Amiga Interactive Guide http://aig.amiga.tm
Mystery of Life? I found it on Aminet!




------------------------------ message 47997 ------------------------------
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From: "Gareth Knight" <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 20:54:39 -0000
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: New ish
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Ben Vost wrote:
> > Had a flick through, spotted my typo on the afb page, noticed the
picture
> 3. All speeeling mistaks orthor's own.

4. Rich has horny thumbnails! Is there no end to the devils work?
--
Gareth Knight
Amiga Interactive Guide http://aig.amiga.tm
Mystery of Life? I found it on Aminet!



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Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 15:57:12 -0800
From: "Steven Holmes" <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Thanks for CDRW help
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Thanks to the 2 people who responded to my question regarding drawers
in the root of a CDRW using MakeCD.
Your help was spot on, and I thank you for that! :-)

Apologies for not remembering your names!

I got my HD backed up as I wanted on CDRW, and went about the
installation of the 2nd hand 3.5" IDE HD I had bought, but there are
hard errors on the drive (it makes quiet ticking noises and struggles
to format certain parts of the disc, resulting in corrupt files after
copying).
I bought the drive as A1 condition from a seller from Amibench. Without
going into great detail, it looks as though I will have a job to get my
money back. How do I go about this properly with a private second hand
sale?


Steven Holmes



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Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 16:02:28 -0800
From: "Steven Holmes" <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] MakeCD help!
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Hello all,

Whilst I am thinking about it (see previous post), does anyone know how
to fix my MakeCD problem?
Basically, the damn program won't keep my registration code saved and I
have to enter it every time I want to use it! Aaaargh! Nnnnngggghh! :-(

I am using an original commercially purchased  MakeCD TAO and the
commercially purchased DAO update (I think that is the right way
around! ;-)  )

Any help would be appreciated, as some of you will know, the bloody
code for MakeCD is a pain in the arse to type in to say the least, let
alone having to do it every time I boot the program!


Steven Holmes




------------------------------ message 48000 ------------------------------
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From: Gerald Mellor <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 00:06:11 +0100
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: OS3.5 help
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi Sean,

>> Yes, I did the pre-install of WB3.1 first, SnoopDOS doesn't really
>> tell me anything helpful, and I'd have to buy DOpus before I could
>> use it :) Any other suggestions?
>>
>> If it helps, the line in installer fails on is:
>> (effect "lower_right" "radial" $FFFF00 $FF0000)
>
> What are you using for a cd rom driver?

I'm using AmiCDFS.

Bauglir



------------------------------ message 48001 ------------------------------
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Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 16:09:32 -0800
From: "graeme meek" <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] AWEB SE OS3.5
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

hi,

i got the aweb browser with the OS 3.5 CD-ROM and cant for the life of
me get the browser to display the images on the screen,
i have tried every setting i can think of please help

graeme meek



------------------------------ message 48002 ------------------------------
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From: [e-mail] (Sean FT)
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 01:10:17 +0200
In-Reply-To: <88nako$[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re:The bigger the stick,the bbigger the bump.
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hello Steven

On 20-Feb-00, you wrote:


> I got my HD backed up as I wanted on CDRW, and went about the
> installation of the 2nd hand 3.5" IDE HD I had bought, but there are
> hard errors on the drive (it makes quiet ticking noises and struggles
> to format certain parts of the disc, resulting in corrupt files after
> copying).


Have you tried a low level format?(he said hearing screams of protest from
the back rows)


> I bought the drive as A1 condition from a seller from Amibench. Without
> going into great detail, it looks as though I will have a job to get my
> money back. How do I go about this properly with a private second hand
> sale?

If you still have the e-mail address start by telling him what the problem
is and you are not happy!.If that does not work GET NASTY and threaten him
with a solicitor(that works over here)?

                                      Not much help i know,
                                                          Sean.
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UltraPlex32X RicohMP6200SCDRW Nomai750.c Mustek1200SP Tiptel506 ISDN Modem
EpsonSC500 OS3.5 etc

*=Still looking for a sound daughter board DB50XG from Yamaha to fit onto
it! (Any offers!)




It is better to have tried and failed than to have failed to try, but
the result's the same.
-- Mike Dennison




------------------------------ message 48003 ------------------------------
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Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 16:15:26 -0800
From: "Eric Oddy" <[e-mail]>
In-Reply-To:  <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: ADF Games
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

andrew crowe <[e-mail]> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=47989
> Hi Everybody,
>
> > ADFs themselves aren't illegal, anymore than mp3s are illegal. It's
> > the things people do with them that's illegal. I think it's
technically
> > still illegal to download commercial games, even ones that were
first
> > released over 10 years ago, as i doubt the copyright on them has
> > expired. *But*, for games that old, I don't think many people would
> > mind, it's hard to see what market you could be damaging, although
> > you are supporting the Evil pirates in doing so. Or an Amiga
> > company could buy the rights to those games and then distribute
> > them on a CD, so by downloading them you could be harming sales
> > of that...
>
>    Actually, pirate games on any system are potentially harming sales
of amiga games: Why buy commercial games for one system when you alreay
have a load of free ones? I mean, who needs Wipeout2097 when I can get
Wip3out for a fiver? (not that I /could/ run Wipeout2097 on my amiga,
even if I wanted to ;)
>
> See ya :)
> --
>        Manta Soft  -  Amiga programing & web page designing
>           http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/       ICQ: 21829166
>           Homepage updated 22/1/00 - Large hompage update



I must stress that the addresses I gave for the amiga games are legal
downloads according to the February edition of AmigaPlus alongside a
long article explaining how it came to be. If you are unsure eMail the
editor on:-
[e-mail] I'll bet my boots he speaks English.





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Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 16:20:40 -0800
From: "Eric Oddy" <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] P.Cs threat on my life
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Sorry about the HTML, I'm a PC user as well you know so that makes me
half stupid. That aside, you're still not big enough.


                          BFN. Eric  ( ex SAS )



------------------------------ message 48005 ------------------------------
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Date: 20 Feb 2000 0:23:54 +0000
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
From:  "Andy Mills" <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: HTML question
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Hello Jani Mkitalo, on 19-Feb-00 21:30:40 you said about:
  [afb] HTML question

>Hello,

>How do I stirp away the blank spaces between FRAMEs of a FRAMESET?
>Disabling frameborders and setting the margins to zero brings the
>frames almost together, but a small whitespace remains (except on
>IBrowse, which I guess goes against conventions here). HTML has no
>command for this, but perhaps the effect could be achieved through CSS
>or JavaScript?

I believe what you are looking for is FRAMESPACING="0" in the FRAME
and/or FRAMESET tags - sorry, I can't remember exactly which now, but
you'll just have to try it and see which works...

--
 The Amiga Resource - http://www.amigaresource.org
 South West Amiga Group - http://www.swag.org.uk
 afb-ot's official webshite - http://www.afb-ot.co.uk
--
He who laughs last probably made a backup.



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From: Gerald Mellor <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 00:33:49 +0100
In-Reply-To: <88nc0o$[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: P.Cs threat on my life
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi Eric,

>                          BFN. Eric  ( ex SAS )

You know, if I was going to kill someone's cat, the first thing I'd
check would be that he had never been in the SAS...

Bauglir



------------------------------ message 48007 ------------------------------
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Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 16:33:59 -0800
From: "Alex Paton" <[e-mail]>
In-Reply-To:  <88nbbr$[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: AWEB SE OS3.5
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi, Greame,

>
> i got the aweb browser with the OS 3.5 CD-ROM and cant for the life of
> me get the browser to display the images on the screen,
> i have tried every setting i can think of please help
>
> graeme meek

Sounds like you need to instal the Gif data type.

See Ya

Alex Paton



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From: [e-mail] (Sean FT)
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 01:34:03 +0200
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Hello Gerald

On 20-Feb-00, you wrote:


>> What are you using for a cd rom driver?
>
> I'm using AmiCDFS.

On the Amiga OS site there is a list of tips & tricks and problems with
OS3.5(written
in German)It states that ASIMCDFS causes problems with the installer and
causes it to
fail!They say download the demo version of IDE Fix 97 from the Aminet and
install it to
cure this problem?

I dont know if this helps as you are using AMICDFS?
                                                  Sorry,
                                                       Sean.



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Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 16:41:16 -0800
From: "Eric Oddy" <[e-mail]>
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gerald mellor <[e-mail]> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=48006
> Hi Eric,
>
> >                          BFN. Eric  ( ex SAS )
>
> You know, if I was going to kill someone's cat, the first thing I'd
> check would be that he had never been in the SAS...
>
> Bauglir
>

I was fourteen when that happened, SAS only recruit experienced
soldiers. Doh ! Everyone knows that.

Eric



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Date: 20 Feb 2000 0:52:7 +0000
In-Reply-To: <88kiql$[e-mail]>
From:  "Andy Mills" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: [afb] Re: fusion and shapeshifter
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Hello jtu, on 18-Feb-00 22:58:30 you said about:
  [afb] fusion and shapeshifter

>i have been using shapeshifter for ages and have a dedicated partition
>for it but since buytioing the latest af and afcd i would like to try
>out fucion to see if it is as good as shapeshifter is, but... the
>problem is that whilst shapeshifter can recoqnise a partition that is
>not automatically mounted by dos fusion can not and i hate havig an
>ugly dh2:$|&%^ icon on my workbench can any of you increadibly helpfull
>and intelligbent people help me to hide this amigados invalide disk but
>still have the ability to use fusion.

Using HDToolbox, select your Mac partition, tick advanced options, click
on "change" and in the "Identifier" field, enter "0x0" (without the
quotes) and then save your settings, etc. This should stop your Mac
partition from having an icon on Workbench.

Disclaimer: I take no responsibility if you fudge it up... ;)

Or you could get DOpus and tell it to hide bad disks, or just hide that
volume.

--
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From: Stephen Webber <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 00:56:26 +0100
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Hello Gerald

On 19-Feb-00, you wrote:


> Yes, I did the pre-install of WB3.1 first, SnoopDOS doesn't really
> tell me anything helpful, and I'd have to buy DOpus before I could use
> it :) Any other suggestions?
>
First you have to install 3.1.  Then you have to do the 3.5 pre-install,
followed by a reboot, followed by the 3.5 main install.  The only problem I
had (installing to a blank partition) was that for some reason the
scsi.device patch didn't like my 1200's built in IDE port (the one it's
supposed to be compatible with and designed for!)

Hope this helps


Regards
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From: [e-mail] (Sean FT)
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 02:29:35 +0200
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ..........
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Hi,
  Has Everyone Gone To Bed!!!!!!!!!!!

                                    Cheers,
                                          Sean.




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EpsonSC500 OS3.5 etc

*=Still looking for a sound daughter board DB50XG from Yamaha to fit onto
it! (Any offers!)




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equals.




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Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 11:02:49 +0100
From: Tudor Davies <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
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Ben Vost wrote:

> Wow! Get better soon. Here are some virtual grapes:
>
>   \
> oooOoo
>  OoooO
>   oOo
>    oO
>    O

Hmmm, they were lovely.
Hang on, now I need the toilet and I live in a 3 storey house with (you
guessed it) the bog on the top floor....
Damn you :)

> Why do I now have Preston the Cyberdog as he appears from the knitting
> machine in my head when I think about you? :)

Well it was "a close shave" for me as well - doh!
Partly robot - I'm working on becoming the world first human magnet - over
the next few weeks and months I am going to magnetise my metal bits and see
what fun I can have with a magnetic ankle ;P

So no more installing Zorro cards with my feet...

l8r

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From: Jani =??Q?M=E4kitalo?= <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 04:36:20 +0300
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
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On 20-Feb-00 Gerald Mellor wrote:


> Hi, can someone help me out here. I'm trying to install OS3.5, but the
> Installer script is throwing an error at me before it has even
> started:
>
> Interpreter: Executing non-function in line 3.
>
> What's up and how do I fix it? :)
>
> Cheers,
> Bauglir

I recall I got exactly the same error when installing my 3.5... now, are
you installing it onto a *different* HD, instead of overwriting your
original WB partition? If so, read on...

I had to switch HDs and boot from the newly installed 3.1 before the 3.5
installation worked - which was a pain as I had to manually install the
CD drivers first (3.5 installation provides you with a CD driver BUT
since you cannot get into the installation process you cannot do
that... :( ). It appears the installed uses some 3.1 processes and if
you boot from 3.0 it wont work...

- Jani
--
"The capacity of technology to modify the definition of humanity"



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From: Jani =??Q?M=E4kitalo?= <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 04:03:10 +0300
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
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On 19-Feb-00 Gerald Mellor wrote:

> Well 0.1578 isn't the latest version either. I'm using 0.1726 here,
> which, as of the time of writing, *is* the latest version :)
>
> Bauglir

Yeah, I noticed when I went to the site. However, the problem still
persists; I cannot log in. Actually, that is, I cannot get an UIN. The
newer versions dispense with the separate "get UIN" gadget so I am
assuming here they attempt to generate you one when you go online for
the first time...

- Jani
--
"The capacity of technology to modify the definition of humanity"



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From: Jani =??Q?M=E4kitalo?= <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 03:54:33 +0300
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
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On 20-Feb-00 Andy Mills wrote:

> I believe what you are looking for is FRAMESPACING="0" in the FRAME
> and/or FRAMESET tags - sorry, I can't remember exactly which now, but
> you'll just have to try it and see which works...

Yes, that does the trick, in the FRAMESET tag. Oddly, I didnt notice
this when I was reading the official HTML4 specification at W3Cs site
- or I just wasnt looking closely enough. O_o

Now the pics look just great as they arent broken up by that frame
divider. Thanks!

- Jani
--
"The capacity of technology to modify the definition of humanity"



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From: Dauber <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 21:35:57 -0500
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Okay, I'm sure there's an easy answer to this, but I can't find it in the
manuals....

My YAM and Miami AppIcons won't display on my DOpus screen, Workbench
Replacement Mode. I'm using version 5.82 -- supposedly the bug-fixed
version -- over OS 3.5.

According to the manual, there isn't direct support from DirOpus for
NewIcons, which both the YAM and Miami AppIcons are, but if I understand
the manual correctly, you have to have the command "c:newicons" in your
user-startup or startup-sequence, which I DO, but the icons are still just
little dots.

Any ideas?
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From: Gerald Mellor <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 03:08:08 +0100
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Hi Sean,

> On the Amiga OS site there is a list of tips & tricks and problems
> with OS3.5(written
> in German)It states that ASIMCDFS causes problems with the installer
> and causes it to
> fail!They say download the demo version of IDE Fix 97 from the
> Aminet and install it to
> cure this problem?
>
> I dont know if this helps as you are using AMICDFS?

I could try this, but I don't know if it would do any good. I have
IDE Fix '97 (registered), but I don't use it anymore since I got my
Power Flyer. IIRC it comes with a version of CacheCDFS, maybe this is
what they're suggesting will work, however I could never get that to
work, it always crashed my machine when the file system was mounted,
which is the reason I use AmiCDFS. Surely *someone* out there must
have installed OS3.5 using AmiCDFS.

Bauglir



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From: Gerald Mellor <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 03:10:31 +0100
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
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Hi Stephen,

> First you have to install 3.1. Then you have to do the 3.5
> pre-install, followed by a reboot, followed by the 3.5 main install.

Yeah, i know that, I've been following the instructions in the
Installation manual. But I can't get any further than installing 3.1.

Bauglir



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From: Gerald Mellor <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 03:17:05 +0100
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
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Hi Jani,

> I recall I got exactly the same error when installing my 3.5... now,
> are you installing it onto a *different* HD, instead of overwriting
> your original WB partition? If so, read on...

Nope, I'm overwriting my Workbench partition, or at least I'm trying
to :)

> I had to switch HDs and boot from the newly installed 3.1 before the
> 3.5 installation worked - which was a pain as I had to manually
> install the CD drivers first (3.5 installation provides you with a
> CD driver BUT since you cannot get into the installation process you
> cannot do that... :( ). It appears the installed uses some 3.1
> processes and if you boot from 3.0 it wont work...

Well I have 3.1 installed now, and I have rebooted my machine since I
installed it (actually, IBrowse 2.1 kindly rebooted my machine for me
:). And I copied my CD0 dosdriver back onto the partition so that I
could read the CD. So I still can't see what's going wrong. I really
don't want to have to resort to doing this all manually :(

Bauglir



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From: Richard Lane <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 04:59:04 +0000
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
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Subject: [afb] Re: DOpus AppIcons
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Hello Dauber

On 20-Feb-00, Dauber wrote:
> Okay, I'm sure there's an easy answer to this, but I can't find it in the
> manuals....
>
> My YAM and Miami AppIcons won't display on my DOpus screen, Workbench
> Replacement Mode. I'm using version 5.82 -- supposedly the bug-fixed
> version -- over OS 3.5.

Convert the files that are the icons displayed by the programs into the New
O/S3.5 type, just load them into IconEdit and save them out again.

For Miami these are ....

ENVARC:sys/def_MiamiApp.info
ENVARC:sys/def_MiamiAppOnline.info

and for YAM....

YAM:icons/new.info
YAM:icons/old.info
YAM:icons/empty.info
YAM:icons/check.info

You should also convert ENVARC:sys/def_mui.info as well

> According to the manual, there isn't direct support from DirOpus for
> NewIcons, which both the YAM and Miami AppIcons are, but if I understand
> the manual correctly, you have to have the command "c:newicons" in your
> user-startup or startup-sequence, which I DO, but the icons are still just
> little dots.

This was updated in 5.82, NewIcons are now handled by the new version of the
icon.library. But using newicons as Appicons isn't supported.. yet. convert
them to OS3.5 colour icons.

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From:   Pekka Sippola <[e-mail]>
Date:   Sat, 19 Feb 2000 18:42:34 +0300
In-Reply-To: <88kiql$[e-mail]>
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Subject: [afb] Re: fusion and shapeshifter
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Hello jtu

> sorry but i thought that i would also add a little question about
> blizzkick i am having a little trouble with adding the EXTRESBUF
> option, no matter how i structure the command line the applypatch
> program refuses to accept it when  creating a ro file.  any help would
> be fan dabby dosy, also can the prepareemul and fusionreserve options
> be used together-ive had no luck

As SS works happily with RsrvWarm, might it work also with
fusionreserve?

Regards
--
Zipper

proud owner of A500 powerhouse ala '91
now cooking with A4000/233PPC




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From: Jon Barker <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 08:58:57 +0000
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Hello Jani

On 20-Feb-00, Jani Mkitalo wrote:
> On 19-Feb-00 Gerald Mellor wrote:

>> Well 0.1578 isn't the latest version either. I'm using 0.1726 here,
>> which, as of the time of writing, *is* the latest version :)
>>
>> Bauglir

> Yeah, I noticed when I went to the site. However, the problem still
> persists; I cannot log in. Actually, that is, I cannot get an UIN. The
> newer versions dispense with the separate "get UIN" gadget so I am
> assuming here they attempt to generate you one when you go online for
> the first time...

> - Jani

   The new beta's are broken, it's a known problem.  Use version 0.1578 and
that should work.  Then use the latest version,

Cheers
--
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Jon Barker                         ICQ:20786000
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Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 01:01:51 -0800
From: "Ian Henderson" <[e-mail]>
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simon mason <[e-mail]> wrote:
> I did exactly the same when I got my OS3.5. If you want to partion
anew like
> I did then reformat and alter your partitions. Install your old OS. I
then
> had to install my IDE fix so it could recognise my set up(mainly the
cd).
> Then simply install your new OS.

Cheers Simon, One little question though...
 As I understand it Ive got to clean everything off my drive then
 Re-install my Old os...
 can I not just install 3.1 from the cd (Im new to all this sorry)
 then install 3.5 instead of having 3.0, 3.1 & 3.5 installed
 on my Vsmall 100mb HD?

Thanks 4 Yr time




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From: Jon Barker <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 09:07:40 +0000
In-Reply-To: <88n87m$[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: YAM
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Hello darren

On 19-Feb-00, darren glenn wrote:
> I cannot send e-mails at all through yam or any other e-mail program
> this is really annoying me now
> My config is fine and it works on my brothers. Ive tryed everything,
> tryed using several accounts, reinstalled yam, genisis, workbench
> partion
> and still it doesnt work why? can anyone help please im desperate.
> email me on [e-mail]
> Daz

   You need to get your address right first.  I'm assuming that your dial in
ISP is Freeserve?

   Type *smtp.freeserve.net* in the server gadget of YAM's TCP/IP page

   Domain will be *glenn1000*

   Make a new POP3 entry of

            pop.freeserve.net
            glenn1000.freeserve.co.uk
            <password>


   Good luck

Cheers
--
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From: "Simon Hitchen" <[e-mail]>
Date: 20 Feb 2000 09:21:21 +0000
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
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Hello Gerald Mellor,

> Hi, can someone help me out here. I'm trying to install OS3.5, but the
> Installer script is throwing an error at me before it has even
> started:
>
> Interpreter: Executing non-function in line 3.
>
> What's up and how do I fix it? :)

Sounds like it's using the 3.1 installer to run a 3.5 installer
script, try copying the 3.5 installer from the CD to your sys:C dir.


--

Simon

MailTo:[e-mail]          [e-mail]
http://www.gadge.u-net.com                      ICQ: 22707489

A1200T-060/50-48+4+2MB-CD-HDx2-V90-SVGA-SCSI-ZII-CGX/3D-OS3.5
( Health Warning!! - This Amiga Is Genetically Modified(tm) )


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Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 11:13:09 +0100
From: Tudor Davies <[e-mail]>
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A quick question :

I have 128mb on my Apollo 4060 card in my A4000.
Does this use part of the Zorro III memory space?
If not, and the Zorro III memory space is 2Gb, how can I install that much
memory in my A4000?

Even if I bought 5x DKB3128 cards and put them in my A4000T, I would only
have 684Mb - so what is the use of saying  2Gb limit when there is *no way*
to put that much in the machine/

Which brings me onto my next question -  apart from the DKB3128, what other
memory cards are there? I would love to see a Zorro III memory card capable
of dealing with 72pin SIMMS (EDO/FPM/PARITY, 60/70ns) for a good price. Who
would make such a beast and who would be interested?

l8r
--

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                                     Technology in Perfect Harmony
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Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 02:13:22 -0800
From: "David Plunkett" <[e-mail]>
In-Reply-To:  <88kiql$[e-mail]>
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Subject: [afb] Re: fusion and shapeshifter
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"jtu" <[e-mail]> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=47865
> i have been using shapeshifter for ages and have a dedicated partition
> for it but since buytioing the latest af and afcd i would like to try
> out fucion to see if it is as good as shapeshifter is, but... the
> problem is that whilst shapeshifter can recoqnise a partition that is
> not automatically mounted by dos fusion can not and i hate havig an
> ugly dh2:$|&%^ icon on my workbench can any of you increadibly
helpfull
> and intelligbent people help me to hide this amigados invalide disk
but
> still have the ability to use fusion.
>
I used to have the same problem. Now I have Workbench 3.5, and it has a
nice
workbench prefs feature where you can select which partitions you want
to appear.

I just turn off the Mac partition (and the Windows 3.1 one too). Works
well.

Regards

David



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Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 02:30:15 -0800
From: "Will" <[e-mail]>
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gerald mellor <[e-mail]> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=47983
> On 19-Feb-00, Will wrote:
>
> I'm sure AF *do* want your money, but it seems like you're not willing
> to give it to them. If there's something you want to see covered in
> AF, this is the place to mention it.

If you read my letter in AF you will see my point.

> Thos programs don't "sell" on the PC, they're programs that people
> download for free from the Internet. I don't see how anyone's making
> money through MAME or UAE or through all the ROM and disk images on
> the net.

This is where computer entheusiasts completely fail to identify a
market. Whilst you or I and everybody on this list may be familiar and
literate with computer technology the average person hasn`t a clue and
doesn`t even know what the word rom means. This is the target area, if
you go into PC world or Gameworld or any computer fair you will see
dozens of these games for sale.

> So what do you suggest *is* the reason? I'm fairly certain both those
> things had a major part to play in it.

This is a well worn argument which I don`t see a point in going into
now, the fact is that it the classic Amiga is finished and there won`t
be a new one.
>
> >> It was probably something they'd been wanting to say for years, but
> >> couldn't due to fear of losing sales.
> >
> > If the 500 was so obsolete why were they afraid of losing sales?
>
> I didn't say it was obsolete back them,

back then? - it`s only last year.

> but if games companies had taken a risk and released software that
required > faster machines, more people would have upgraded.

Wrong, the average person wanted a PC because they are perceived as
easy and most important of all - compatible with everybody else. Also,
I and numerous others do not use a computer mainly for games and game
playabilbity is not a consideration.

> Instead, for years we got shit games without the features of their PC
> counterparts because in their opinion the Amiga wasn't capable of it.
Take a > look at Championship Manager 2 for an example.

I have zero interest in football or sport.

Most of the games bought nowadays are for Playstations and Nitendo64s.
Most people buy a PC as an easy way to get onto the net without having
to understand how it works and to be able to use Word and other
Microsoft office applications. No matter how much you upgrade an Amiga
you cannot open a Word document unless you use RTF. Also, the 1200 has
the restrictions of chipram so
in order to handle large graphics files a graphics card and zorro
expansion are required. The cost of these plus towering up the 1200 is
near to buying a complete pc and you are then stuck with a third rate
graphics card which won`t hold a candle to a voodoo 128 bit card or a
Creative Soundblaster.

This is why the Siamese system came out - did you buy that? I did and
can use Opus to access anything on the PC.

> > They already have, sales are so low that it is not worth developing
> > anything worthwhile anymore.
>
> So you're saying it's not worth buying anything for your Amiga
> anymore? It's not worth supporting the developers who are still with
> us? Not *all* the developers have left, you know.

I don`t have any duty to support any hardware or software developer or
supplier, anybody who thinks that they should has fallen for the con
trick.

Several recent experiences have also led me to believe that certain
Amiga suppliers advertise items which they don`t have in stock and only
order the stock once they have assured sales.

I also am now finished with suppiers who give poor support, I have
waited weeks to get an email reply from Amiga suppliers compared with
hours for PC software support.

Digita, however,  were great but now that they have gone these won`t be
a decent word processor developed for the future nor any mailing list
programes. I recently tried to get Pagesream 4 off the net and their
website stated that they had moved to new offices. I wrote to them at
the new address without reply.

> Or perhaps you don't
> know, since you don't read Amiga mags anymore...

I did look at the last issue and it featured a photo of two people in a
pub celebrating the take over by Fleecy Moss. We all laughed out loud
that this grande meeting was worthy of mention. Am I expected to pay
six quid for this?

Will
Will



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From: "Alex Furmanski" <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 10:52:20 -0000
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: HTML question
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Hi Jani

> > I believe what you are looking for is FRAMESPACING="0" in the FRAME
> > and/or FRAMESET tags - sorry, I can't remember exactly which now, but
> > you'll just have to try it and see which works...
>
> Yes, that does the trick, in the FRAMESET tag. Oddly, I didnt notice
> this when I was reading the official HTML4 specification at W3Cs site
> - or I just wasnt looking closely enough. O_o

The reason you couldn't see it is because it isn't in the spec :-)  I'm
not sure what FRAMESPACING is supposed to do, but if you want to keep your
pages legal you might like to try fiddling about with FRAMEBORDER,
MARGINWIDTH and MARGINHEIGHT (they're for the FRAME tag).

Lovely job
--
Alex Furmanski - [e-mail]
WWW: http://www.furmanskinet.connectfree.co.uk
ICQ: 51206302

This week's lie: By a vastly improbable coincidence, every person in
Finland has booked a holiday in the Algarve for the first fortnight in
July.



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From: "Peter Hutchison" <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 22:08:21 -0000
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] re: Uninitialized Partition
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>Yesterday I installed loads of software onto my new (replaced)
>10.2Gb hard drive.  After leaving the computer on for quite some
>time I have lost my partition.

>The problem is that I do not know what software to use to validate or
>repair it again because of its size and configuartion.  BTW, this
 >partition did not become 'uninitialized' due to crashing or turning
>the computer off during a write.


>The 10.2Gb drive is split up into 4 partition 3.8Gb, 3.8Gb, 1.7Gb,
>0.5Gb. However, the other partitions on this drive still work.

>I used to use Disksalv2 but I think that it might not work with
>partitions over 2Gb.  What else can I use?

The current repair utils will work with partitions below the 4Gb
limit. You didn`t say which partition has become invalidated?
Anyway  the only thing you can do is copy the files onto a
backup or another partition and reformat again to use it again.

Peter

Peter Hutchison
http://www.blizzard.u-net.com/




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From: "Peter Hutchison" <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 22:10:40 -0000
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] re: Amiga & Realaudio
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Hi guys.

>Is it possible to listen to radio stations (or anything else) that
>broadcast using the format audio/x-pn-realaudio? I'm using V3 at the
>moment (warts n'all)

Nope, RA is not available on the Amiga except a really old RA player.
Get a real Radio or find a PC with RA installed on it (like I have).


Peter Hutchison
http://www.blizzard.u-net.com/




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From: "Peter Hutchison" <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 22:16:58 -0000
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] re: Installing linuxPPC 1999 - xwindows problem
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>Hi Everybody,

>   I've got the LinuxPPC cd off a friend, but I'm having trouble getting =
>Xwindows to work:

>I followed the exact same procedure that I used to sucsessfully install t=
>he LinuxPPC that came with AFCD40.

>   The problem is, when I run startx it brings up the b&w screen with the=
> cross-shaped mouse pointer. It then bombs out with this error:

>Fatal server error:
>Caught signal 11. Server aborting


>   So, does anyone know what could be the problem? I've tried with differ=
>ent versions of the kernal, XF68_FBDev etc. to no avail...

I recently installed Redhat Linux and had problems with XWindows, it turns
out to
be the video card driver that it didn`t like. Try using a different driver
or download
a later version and select it with XF86Setup.

Peter Hutchison
http://www.blizzard.u-net.com/




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From: "Peter Hutchison" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 00:10:14 -0000
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] re: VistaPro + PPC
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Hello,

>Is there a way of pursuading VistaPro to use my PPC for rendering?

>(Just on the off- chance)

Fat chance, no 68k applications will use the PPC because the PPC does not
understand 68k code.
You`1l have to rewrite it to use PPC code. All I can suggest is upgrade to
the new G3/G4 card
which will run 68k AND PPC code on the PPC chip (68k code will be emulated).

Peter Hutchison
http://www.blizzard.u-net.com/




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From: "Peter Hutchison" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 00:13:55 -0000
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] re: jammed e-mail
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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 11:04:45 -0800
From: "Graham Persson" <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] jammed e-mail
MIME-Version: 1.0
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>I can't download my mail(it stopped halfway thru yesterday 13th)
> also the mail i did download was -771 days old??????????
> I hope someone can enlighten me
>     graham

What email program are you using? There are some Y2K patches for
some mail programs on Aminet for them. NetConnect 2`s email program
has some date bugs and a few others. YAM works ok.

Alternately, you may have a bad email message thats blocking your new
mail. Try checking your mail via your browser (assuming your ISP supports
that) or ring up your ISP to check your mailbox for you!

Peter Hutchison
http://www.blizzard.u-net.com/




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From: "Peter Hutchison" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 20:55:58 -0000
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] re: UK Aminet
MIME-Version: 1.0
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>Hello,

>Don't know if anyone else has noticed, but uk.aminet.net/~aminet seems to
be
>working again.

Well, hurrah and hazzar! I`ve been using Paderborn for absolutely ages, nice
to
get our local mirror going again!

Peter Hutchison
http://www.blizzard.u-net.com/




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From: Andrew Crowe <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 23:41:56 +0000
In-Reply-To: <88n3ls$[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: Will we get the G4s?
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Hi Everybody,

> I seem to recall an American internet site advertising G4 for A500s

   I'll wager a fiver on it either being a joke, or a mis-interpretaion.

See ya :)
--
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          http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/       ICQ: 21829166
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From: Ken Walsh <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 10:24:46 +0000
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: Another free-calls Internet service
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Hello Chris

> Hi All
> =

> Thought this might interest a few of you.
> =

> Telewest are doing a new Internet offer through their ISP. You pay =A31=
0 a
> month for the Internet account, but get free calls to the ISP 24 hours =
a
> day, seven days a week if you use a Telewest phone line.

snip

> If you are interested, have a look at www.telewest.co.uk or call 0500 5=
00
> 100.

this is what I like to see good advertising as I'm a shareholder its good=
 news
for me :-)

the bad news as I'm not in the telewest area cannot take up the offer :-(=


                 Cheers all the best

                       Ken =





  =



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From: Ken Walsh <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 10:09:00 +0000
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] error
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Hi,

    For some time I've been getting error's coming up saying YAM (error
#80000008). I always used to get it when I had YAM and IBrowse open so
thought it was because of that. But last few times only had YAM open and =
now
use V=B3

All I can do is reboot and start again, it does it off-line as well as on=
-line
and can strike any time. It was a 3 day gap from the last 2 times it stru=
ck!
then just did it again today after 7 day gap!

See You
-- =

                 Cheers all the best

                       Ken =





  =




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From: Ken Walsh <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 10:16:54 +0000
In-Reply-To: <88k9om$[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: A1200 Qs
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Hello Matthew

>> That all depends on if it is a Mark I, Mark II, Mark III or Mark IV

>
> It's a Mark III.  The BBOAHW (amigaworld.freeserve.co.uk) had some
> limited info about it.  The MMU is built into the '030 processor.

In case you don't know the mark III has a 32Mb limit also I had trouble with
this unit if you have the scsi kit for it, you might need a software patch
called '1230ScsiFix' as I have the same Blizzard with scsi interface.

                 Cheers all the best

                       Ken








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From: [e-mail] (Sean FT)
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 12:20:13 +0200
In-Reply-To: <000001bf7b91$3636d220$0100000a@peterspc>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: Uninitialized Partition
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Hello Peter

On 17-Feb-00, you replied to another mail:

>> I used to use Disksalv2 but I think that it might not work with
>> partitions over 2Gb.  What else can I use?
>
> The current repair utils will work with partitions below the 4Gb
> limit. You didn`t say which partition has become invalidated?
> Anyway  the only thing you can do is copy the files onto a
> backup or another partition and reformat again to use it again.

I did not see the first mail,the reason is he does not say what OS he is
using or what Amiga/Controller etc.I had problems with dissapearing
partitions
when i installed OS3.5,it was caused by the NSDPatch in the new SetPatch.
After correcting the NSDPatch.cfg file in DEVS: it was all hunky dorry
again.
                  Cheers,
                        Sean.

                             POWERED BY:

A4000(T) 040 25+PPC233 144Mb CVPPC PreludeZII+Rombler* IOBlixZII
UltraPlex32X RicohMP6200SCDRW Nomai750.c Mustek1200SP Tiptel506 ISDN Modem
EpsonSC500 OS3.5 etc

*=Still looking for a sound daughter board DB50XG from Yamaha to fit onto
it! (Any offers!)




Anyone can make mistakes, but only an idiot persists in his error.
-- Cicero




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From: [e-mail] (Sean FT)
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 12:24:11 +0200
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: error
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello Ken

On 20-Feb-00, you wrote:

 =

>    For some time I've been getting error's coming up saying YAM (error
> #80000008). I always used to get it when I had YAM and IBrowse open so
> thought it was because of that. But last few times only had YAM open an=
d
> now use V=B3
> =

> All I can do is reboot and start again, it does it off-line as well as
> on-line and can strike any time. It was a 3 day gap from the last 2 tim=
es
> it struck! then just did it again today after 7 day gap!


Have you got OS3.5 and MCP installed on your system?

As when MCP is running and YAM2 / Ww6 or 7 / DOpus 5.11 are used it can
cause =

the system to crash like you report.
                                   Cheers,
                                         Sean.



                             POWERED BY:      =


A4000(T) 040 25+PPC233 144Mb CVPPC PreludeZII+Rombler* IOBlixZII
UltraPlex32X RicohMP6200SCDRW Nomai750.c Mustek1200SP Tiptel506 ISDN Mode=
m
EpsonSC500 OS3.5 etc

*=3DStill looking for a sound daughter board DB50XG from Yamaha to fit on=
to
it! (Any offers!)






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From: George Davis <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 10:55:09 +0000
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Ancient Sony Monitor
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Hello,everyone.
A while back I picked up a monitor for =A310 in a market.
It's a Sony Trinitron 'Videotex Terminal' KTM-1430ub,and it has a
round ten pin socket on the back.

Anyone know if this can be used as a VGA display with an adaptor?
(hopefully getting a blizzardvision soon:)

PS. I called Sony,but they don't have any idea about it.
Seeya.
-- =

<sb>Geo=



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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 11:36:23 +0100
In-Reply-To: <88khus$[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: Pink Panther stole my jewel
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On 18-Feb-00, FireW0lf wrote:

> Now, I know things are getting grim down at AF Towers, but come on! I
> pay SIX QUID

points to the subs page.... half price.... cheaper than AA... and bigger

Mash -
--
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

You're going to stick that where?







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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 18:26:01 +0100
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: Cd videos
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On 19-Feb-00, Geoffrey Dodd wrote:

> Hi again well I`am using wb3.5 but if it is the filesystem canI get one
> that can open the Cds.

They're not dvds are they? they look identical...

Mash -
--
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HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 18:30:37 +0100
In-Reply-To: <88k6kk$[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: Help!!
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On 18-Feb-00, Ian Henderson wrote:

> (But being a novice I dunno if I can delete everything
> first B4 I start the Upgrade )

Just quick format the drive :) eveything 'll go (so note down any passwords
and key files etc!)

> Also Im want to Tower my Miggy up and
> Attach it to a Monitor increase the memory
> and add an accelerator .. But again the
> choices are bewildering

Firstly, what do you want to do with your machine and secondly how much do
you want to spend?

--
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

Cats: God's way of telling you your furniture is too nice







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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 19:09:09 +0100
In-Reply-To: <00cd01bf7af2$091af860$a1035cc3@ThisComputer>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: More A1200 Qs
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On 19-Feb-00, Matthew Wise wrote:

> -Why is there a 1inch black border on the left hand side in Multisync
> scrnmodes e.g. Dblpal?

because they do, they always do and always will :/ you could use a normal
pal screen and crank the overscan up like I do

> -Why are interlaced modes e.g. Pal 640*512 still interlaced? I thought
> Multisync monitors could display practically any resolution, flicker-free?

multisync monitors have never fixed that, you need a flicker fixer. When I
was upgrading I had the choice of  a svga screen with a scandoubler and
flicker fixer or a multisync one. with the s/d and f/f I can use any cheepo
pc screen and have no flicker :)

Mash -
--
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HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

"These guys are pretty cool for a bunch of mimes." - Butt-Head







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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 19:11:05 +0100
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: More A1200 Qs
MIME-Version: 1.0
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On 19-Feb-00, Wesley Potter wrote:

>> -Why are interlaced modes e.g. Pal 640*512 still interlaced? I thought
>> Multisync monitors could display practically any resolution,
>> flicker-free?

> The frequency is too fast for the monitor. hence flicker

WHAT!!?????
/me looks around trying to work out where the bullshit smell is coming
from.. ;)

Mash -
--
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HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

"I am the weirdo who sits next to you on the bus!" -Darkwing Duck







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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 19:12:40 +0100
In-Reply-To: <88m1s2$[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: YAM
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
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On 19-Feb-00, darren glenn wrote:

> I can not send e-mails via yam or anyother program and i dont know why.
> My details
> are correct and it works on my brothers Amiga but not on mine. I am
> pretty
> annoyed about this and the yam website didnt help either. Does anyone
> else suffer the same
> problen or is it just me.

You could at least tell us what the rror message is!??.

Mash -
--
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HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

AI HACKERS do it robotically







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Date: 20 Feb 2000 11:7:1 +0000
From:  "Oliver Roberts" <[e-mail]>
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: DOpus AppIcons
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On 20-Feb-00 04:59:04 GMT, Richard Lane wrote:

> On 20-Feb-00, Dauber wrote:
>> According to the manual, there isn't direct support from DirOpus for
>> NewIcons, which both the YAM and Miami AppIcons are, but if I understand
>> the manual correctly, you have to have the command "c:newicons" in your
>> user-startup or startup-sequence, which I DO, but the icons are still
>> just little dots.

> This was updated in 5.82, NewIcons are now handled by the new version of
> the icon.library. But using newicons as Appicons isn't supported.. yet.
> convert them to OS3.5 colour icons.

Just being a little pedantic here, but OS 3.5 does support NewIcons in
AppIcons.  It's DOpus that still has problems with this :(

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From: "James Potter" <[e-mail]>
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Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 11:44:16 -0000
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rom: Will <[e-mail]>
Subject: [afb] Re: Am I missing the point ?

Sorry to butt in like this, but I think I really *am* missing the point!

> > I'm sure AF *do* want your money, but it seems like you're not willing
> > to give it to them. If there's something you want to see covered in
> > AF, this is the place to mention it.
>
> If you read my letter in AF you will see my point.

Which letter? What issue? I vaguely recall reading it, I think, something
about a series on using the 500 for somethingorother, wasn't it? IIRC (and I
might not) it was pointed out that there would not be enough reader interest
in running such an article. Or was that someone else? If it was, I
apologise - point me to your letter.

> This is where computer entheusiasts completely fail to identify a
> market. Whilst you or I and everybody on this list may be familiar and
> literate with computer technology the average person hasn`t a clue and
> doesn`t even know what the word rom means. This is the target area, if
> you go into PC world or Gameworld or any computer fair you will see
> dozens of these games for sale.

Yes, the average person is the target area (and the target area for Amiga
too, believe it or not) - and no, you do not see dozens of MAME or UAE
packages for commercial sale. I certainly haven't. This isn't because it's
an untapped market, it's because it's a legally dodgy area. Oh, unless you
mean those generally poor retro gallery compilations you can get for the PS.

> This is a well worn argument which I don`t see a point in going into
> now, the fact is that it the classic Amiga is finished and there won`t
> be a new one.

And a big Hurrah for that, quite frankly. A new Clasic Amiga now would be
commercial suicide. We need new, modern, hardware

> > but if games companies had taken a risk and released software that
> required > faster machines, more people would have upgraded.
>
> Wrong, the average person wanted a PC because they are perceived as
> easy and most important of all - compatible with everybody else. Also,
> I and numerous others do not use a computer mainly for games and game
> playabilbity is not a consideration.

True, but it is a fact that games drive PC technology, not business apps
(though Microsoft seem to do their best in that regard), and this is just as
true with the Amiga, from Shadow of the Beast selling the machine in the
first place to WipEout being an excuse to get a PPC board and GFX card.

> > Instead, for years we got shit games without the features of their PC
> > counterparts because in their opinion the Amiga wasn't capable of it.
> Take a > look at Championship Manager 2 for an example.
>
> I have zero interest in football or sport.

Irrelevant. The point is that the Amiga *still was* a capable machine at
that point and people ignored it. Your likes or dislikes do not change the
fact that the evidence is there.

> Most of the games bought nowadays are for Playstations and Nitendo64s.
> Most people buy a PC as an easy way to get onto the net without having
> to understand how it works and to be able to use Word and other
> Microsoft office applications.
[Snip about archaic 1200 hardware in comparison to PC stuff]

This is all very true. It's the reason I'm looking forward to (and hoping to
have) an AmigaPOP! (TM :)

> This is why the Siamese system came out - did you buy that? I did and
> can use Opus to access anything on the PC.

A lot of people on this list use PC's anyway, that way they can access
anything on the PC as well.

> > > They already have, sales are so low that it is not worth developing
> > > anything worthwhile anymore.
> >
> > So you're saying it's not worth buying anything for your Amiga
> > anymore? It's not worth supporting the developers who are still with
> > us? Not *all* the developers have left, you know.

AH! No, what he's saying is that the Amiga is dead and buried and we should
celebrate it's memory in emulation form while making our 500s and 1200s do
more constructive things than tasks which can be done better on other
machines.

> I don`t have any duty to support any hardware or software developer or
> supplier, anybody who thinks that they should has fallen for the con
> trick.

What con trick? A con trick is a malicious deception - I'm not aware of one
of those.

> Several recent experiences have also led me to believe that certain
> Amiga suppliers advertise items which they don`t have in stock and only
> order the stock once they have assured sales.

Yes, this is how companies that supply minority goods do business. If they
didn't advertise them, how would you know they were still in production? I'm
waiting on a copy of CrossDos 7, others are waiting on BlizzardVisions, it's
the price we pay for supporting such a small computer.

> I also am now finished with suppiers who give poor support, I have
> waited weeks to get an email reply from Amiga suppliers compared with
> hours for PC software support.

Have you tried phoning them? It can produce more immediate results.

> Digita, however,  were great but now that they have gone these won`t be
> a decent word processor developed for the future nor any mailing list
> programes.

Digita were good. But I'd be happy with a product that wasn't specially
written for the Amiga, like WordPerfect.

> I did look at the last issue and it featured a photo of two people in a
> pub celebrating the take over by Fleecy Moss. We all laughed out loud
> that this grande meeting was worthy of mention. Am I expected to pay
> six quid for this?

With news as sparse as it is, anything is worthy of a mention. And no,
you're not expected to pay six quid for anything. If you don't like it,
don't buy it. It's that simple.

I think I can see what you mean. If the Amiga is as dead as you say (and I
believe the current hardware is, not the concept) then what's the point of
insisting that people ditch their 500s and upgrade to 1200s or 4000s when
the 500s are still capable of doing certain things?

The problem is that the Amiga is very much a minority, cult computer. The
fact that you are demanding equality for an outdated model of a minority
computer means that, as a user, you are a small percentage of a very small
percentage. Small markets = high costs and the only way of making those
costs viable is to only cover the forefront of that market where you are
guaranteed sales.

All I can say is that it looks as if AF isn't the mag for you, because while
you are set in the opinion that the Amiga is dead and there is little point
in trying to revive it's knackered corpse any further, AF is dedicated to
covering that part of it which still has life.

TTFN,
James.



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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 11:43:54 +0100
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Hi

Who runs (ran) the yellow pages thing? send all the offending images heere
and I'll change them, then get a simple script from aminet to find and
replace. Just find "yellow" and replace it with "yella" and ta dar!, new
legal page :)

Mash
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Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 12:13:03 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Alan L.M. Buxey" <[e-mail]>
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On 14 Feb 2000, Kevin Fairhurst wrote:

> > They are Zorro-based, I'm not sure about AHI support, they originally s=
old
                                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > for =A3400 and =A3600 respectively (if I remember rightly).
>=20
> According to the BBOAHW they don't support AHI.  However, =A3400 and =A36=
00??=20
> Ouch!  I'm not paying that for a sound card which will probably only offe=
r
> me something a =A320 PC sound card would provide ... it's bad enough havi=
ng
> to pay =A380 for a new ConciertoIV, as available from your local birds te=
eth
> distributor ...

sure you can get SB 1024Live! for 45 quid.   the price Ben quoted was
the original price when the cards first came out - circa 1991 iirc.
when SB16's cost quite a bit too ;-)
=20
> > My main concern with Repulse is that it's being designed by people who'=
ve
> > never demonstrated sound audio hardware or general hardware design skil=
ls
> > previously. Sound cards are notoriously complicated to get right.
>=20
> Well I was worried about it too, which is why I asked a few questions on
> email which have yet to be answered ....

sound cards have two difficult areas...those of signal/noise - you need
quality components and good shielding and that of interupts/DMA - if the
card is well designed, it'll fit in nice..if not, then other Amiga
peripherals - eg gfx cards, can suffer
=20
alan



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Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 12:16:23 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Alan L.M. Buxey" <[e-mail]>
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hi,

> No, I don't think we would. I think that as soon as we drop DD support, we'd
> also lose all those readers who couldn't afford, or couldn't be bothered to
> get themselves a CD-ROM drive, which would pretty much be all of them...

I promise to you all that, if I win the lottery jackpot, I will upgrade
everyones Amiga to have a CDROM drive..for free!

alan



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Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 12:19:08 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Alan L.M. Buxey" <[e-mail]>
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hi,

> found a "DB68M/50 PIN HEADER IDC INTERNAL SCSI ADAPTER" and
> "M68PIN-F50PIN INT SCSI AD" at Jungle and I think I have seen 68 - 50
> converters. Will this work bearing in mind that I want to add a HD and
> possibly a CD-ROM afterwards and dont want to buy more expensive
> cabling.

be VERY careful. very careful indeed with these 68-50 convertors. many
of them DONT have termination on the upper 18 pins..this leads to
problems. All you need is a 50-way cable, with a single convertor for
the 68pin device

>  As well as cabling I am unsure about termination. The Blizzard manual
> says that the card itself is terminated so only one other active
> terminatior is required. However I have heard people say that the card
> is not terminated. Which is the case ? What should I get / try.

just make sure the last device in the chain has termination. the card
should have it as well, or the signals would reach that end and bounce

alan



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Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 12:20:20 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Alan L.M. Buxey" <[e-mail]>
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On 14 Feb 2000, Neil Bothwick wrote:

> If that were the case, there'd be no point in Stefan Stuntz putting
> time into MUI 4. MUI 3 owners will have to pay an upgrade fee, just like
> we did to upgrade to MUI 2. Otherwise, who's going to pay for all the
> work?

all those thousands of tight-fisted Amigans who havent yet registered?

no, scratch that out, as they'd still be too tight


alan



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Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 12:21:55 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Alan L.M. Buxey" <[e-mail]>
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On 14 Feb 2000, Kevin Fairhurst wrote:

> Well I now have the writer on my CS-PPC card, and it's written out a
> partition back up from image file at 4x fine.  However, I couldn't (as I
> thought at first) create an audio CD from mp3 files directly - I got a
> buffer under-run, although I'm not sure if I've got the PPC mpega libs
> correctly set up.

at 4-speed? You're trying to get your PPC to decode MP3's to AIFF audio
at 4 times the normal play value AND burn it to the CDROM?

me thinks a G4 is needed for that task ;-)

alan



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Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 12:25:22 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Alan L.M. Buxey" <[e-mail]>
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On Mon, 14 Feb 2000, Ben Vost wrote:

> There wasn't time to announce it in last issue (the one you're reading now),
> but we'll have a stonking giveaway on our next issue. I know I've
> previously said that I don't like putting full software on the cover, but
> since so few people bought this software, he's pretty much left anyway and
> we've got the very last version of his stuff on our next CD... stay tuned!

great! looking forward to it!  So, in this case, does he get a nice wad
of cash from future publishing? Would this be enough for him to stay
around? (trying to work out who you mean!) ...would this affect any
other present Amiga software developers who might have been in
competition with him on the s/w front? (just thinking about anyone who'd
now suffer if the competition was given away free!)


by the way, i got a letter from FP saying "Last Issue of AF"...i thought
'WTF???!!!?' - until I realised it was the subs department making a
slight mistake (I'd sent off my renewal the week before) - phew!  8-)

alan



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Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 12:25:53 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Alan L.M. Buxey" <[e-mail]>
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On Mon, 14 Feb 2000, Hugo Wilkinson wrote:

> i too would like to find an interface supporting multikey presses... i like
> playing Doom and Quake with the keyboard.. but its just not poss without
> multikey presses :(

doesnt the latest Power and Ateo ones do this?

alan



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Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 12:29:19 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Alan L.M. Buxey" <[e-mail]>
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On Mon, 14 Feb 2000, Sandy Brownlee wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Is there a way of pursuading VistaPro to use my PPC for rendering?

;-)

sure, its an idea that I had in my head a while back...but I'm still not
sure how feasible (in termsn of performance gain) it would be.

you simple recode the math ieee libraries for PPC usage and trap
68881/882 calls to a ppcfp.library (like calls to 040/060 are
trapped) and do the maths through the PPC.

alan



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Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 12:33:09 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Alan L.M. Buxey" <[e-mail]>
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On Mon, 14 Feb 2000, Mr Halibut wrote:

> Having just read the latest on Amiga's website, I thought I'd subject
> you all to my ideas for Amiga's future. It's clear that Amiga must get
> a machine out soon, so here's my ideal developer machine:
>
>  - Altivec G4 CPU
>  - 128MB RAM

why? AmigaOS must remain efficient! Granted, top-end 3D games will
require that much

>  - 6.4 GB hard drive

8.6Gb 7200RPM UDMA-66 drive please

>  - 32x CD-ROM drive (DVD option)

DVD 8X

>  - 18" flat-screen monitor :^)

;-) that must just be an option..but the gfx system must be able to
output a digital signal!

> The problem comes with the graphics. The Amiga has always been the best
> graphics machine around. Do we want to throw away that heritage by just
> using any old PC gfx card? I don't. I say; put one of the new Bitboys
> gfx chips on the motherboard. This avoids any bus bandwidth problems
> and gives you one of the best graphics chips around. Of course, Tao's
> developer kit should be included.

we need a hell of a 3D card...but we also need stuff that none of the PC
chipsets have - decent sprite support for a start! lots of 2D
function...multi-plane scrolling and other arcade f/x

alan



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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 12:35:01 +0100
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On 19-Feb-00, Mark Wilson wrote:

>> Its only noticable people using gay mailers...

>> Do we have any marmite miners on the list? ;)

> You need to grow up, and stop being so stupid.

Oh lighten up! I was just jokingly replying to him.

(limps wrist) you big sthilly, you!

Mash -
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From: "Daniel Thornton" <[e-mail]>
Date: 20 Feb 2000 12:35:36 +0000
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On Sun, 20 Feb 2000 12:20:20 +0000 (GMT), [e-mail] was largin' it with these words...

[snip MUI related gubbins]

> all those thousands of tight-fisted Amigans who havent yet registered?

It's not "tight-fisted" to not register MUI; you register software
because you like it, NOT because you like other software that happens to
use it. It should be the (commercial) developers that pay for MUI, not
the end user.

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From: "Alex Furmanski" <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 13:05:37 -0000
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Hi Matthew

> >> -Why are interlaced modes e.g. Pal 640*512 still interlaced? I
thought
> >> Multisync monitors could display practically any resolution,
> >> flicker-free?
>
> > The frequency is too fast for the monitor. hence flicker
>
> WHAT!!?????
> /me looks around trying to work out where the bullshit smell is coming
> from.. ;)

Don't be so quick to insult people.  He is sort of right, as the flicker
is caused by a frequency-related issue.

Lovely job
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From: [e-mail] (Sean FT)
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 14:08:46 +0200
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Hello Alan

On 20-Feb-00, you wrote:


> I promise to you all that, if I win the lottery jackpot, I will upgrade
> everyones Amiga to have a CDROM drive..for free!
>
Ta very much,but ive got three in my tower and two in my cupboard.Ill give
it a miss this time,but you could buy me a PSX 2 seeing as you want
to(future tense) give the money away!
                   Tatty Bye For Now?
                                    Sean :-D

                             POWERED BY:

A4000(T) 040 25+PPC233 144Mb CVPPC PreludeZII+Rombler* IOBlixZII
UltraPlex32X RicohMP6200SCDRW Nomai750.c Mustek1200SP Tiptel506 ISDN Modem
EpsonSC500 OS3.5 etc

*=Still looking for a sound daughter board DB50XG from Yamaha to fit onto
it! (Any offers!)




Whenever you find that you are on the side of the majority, it is
time to reform.
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From: Oliver Esberger <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 14:06:39 +0100
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Hello Tudor,

On 20-Feb-00, you wrote:

> I have 128mb on my Apollo 4060 card in my A4000. Does this use part of
> the Zorro III memory space? If not, and the Zorro III memory space is
> 2Gb, how can I install that much memory in my A4000?

Yes, it is part of the Z3 memory space, and theoretically you could add
up to 2 GB of memory...

> Even if I bought 5x DKB3128 cards and put them in my A4000T, I would
> only have 684Mb - so what is the use of saying 2Gb limit when there is
> *no way* to put that much in the machine/

Because every Zorro card needs address space, for example my PicassoIV Z3
allocates 32 MB RAM.

The problem is much clearer when you look at 16 Bit Zorro2 machines like
A500 w/ busboard or A2000. When you had 8 MB of memory added (Z2
maximum), you could not add any other expansion cards like for example
gfx adapters or Bridgeboards. Fortunately 32 bit RAM on accelerator
cards is not part of the z2 address space

> Which brings me onto my next question - apart from the DKB3128, what
> other memory cards are there? I would love to see a Zorro III memory
> card capable of dealing with 72pin SIMMS (EDO/FPM/PARITY, 60/70ns) for
> a good price. Who would make such a beast and who would be interested?

The problem with Z3 memory cards is that they are dead slow, even slower
than the A4000 motherboard RAM. The fastest option is still to have the
RAM on the accelerator board.

Regards
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